} } pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type var advelvetTargeting = []; adUnits.push({ header.nohb.html function detectWidth() { Hmm, we couldn't find any listings from sellers in your country. if(adUnits[i].assignToVariableName && (adUnits[i].assignToVariableName !== null)) window[adUnits[i].assignToVariableName] = dfpSlots[i]; pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type network: dfpNetwork, code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_rosbtf_300x250', userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type googletag.cmd.push(function() { The truth, in my opinion, is that there's probably as much difference as there is between any two new ones you pick off the production line. }); googletag.defineSlot('/143039214/drumforum_mobile_320x50_sponsor', [320, 50], 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_mobile_320x50_sponsor').addService(googletag.pubads()); Entdecke Ludwig 60er 70er Vintage 14"" Snare Drum Hoop Set 10 Lug supraphonisch schn in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! var advelvetTargeting = []; device: ['mobile'], // display only on device if(!adUnits[i].display) continue; Ludwig was using brass hoops with and without drop gates and the same in steel during this period. code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_tablet_midcontent_728x90', userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type } device: ['tablet'], // display only on device device: ['desktop'], // display only on device pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type var googletag = googletag || {}; adUnits.push({ adunit: 'drumforum_mobile_midcontent_320x50', The Supraphonic replaced the "Super".. } I'm tempted to go with the "vintage" crowd more and more. my 1967 400 is one of my favorite drums ever. userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type }); network: dfpNetwork, adunit: 'drumforum_desktop_sticky_728x90', size: [[300, 250]], }); var dfpSlots = []; }); adunit: 'drumforum_300x250_3', size: [[728, 90]], Just traded for this 64/65 drum. You can get it with a p85, p83, p86, or a supersensitive snare throw. But technically a COB or Black Beauty is also a supraphonic (providing it's not a super-sensitive, of course). assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use Supraphonic Performance-proven to be the sound that fueled the most hit recordings in history. device: ['mobile'], // display only on device }); userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type var googletag = googletag || {}; From Jazz to Metal, Ludwig's Supraphonic 400s provide the perfect sound in the studio or on the stage.With your choice of Imperial or Tube Lugs, Smooth or Hammered Shells, the Supraphonic will give you what you need when you need it. size: [[728, 90]], network: dfpNetwork, if(detectWidth() <= 1024) device = "tablet"; View cart for details. 70's/80's ludwig usa 14 8-lug die-cast snare side hoop for your drum set! size: [[300, 250]], device: ['desktop'], // display only on device assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use I preferred the sound of the older model and sold the newer one. adunit: 'drumforum_tablet_sticky_728x90', code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_desktop_sticky_728x90', adUnits.push({ adUnits.push({ No. code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_atf_300x250', Or $34.00/month with 24 mo. Add to Cart Call for Info Ludwig P-1632 Eye Bolt for Classic Tom Mount $6.55 I have a 70's 402 and had a 2000's 402 and gave the edge *slightly* to the 70's one. Throw off looks to be late 60's orearly 70's. It has the white baseball bat muffler. network: dfpNetwork, device: ['mobile'], // display only on device Manufactor: Ludwig Model: Supraphonic Size: 5 x 14" Color: Chrome over brass Lugs: 10 Imperial Strainer: P-83 Hoops: Triple flanged crome over brass Condition: EXC Manufacturing year:1960 - 1962 Badge: Pre-serial Keystone Badge Muffler: Small knob-type. userType: ['guest'], // display only on user type Skicka mejl till info@gear4music.se eller ring 08-124 103 60. financing*. In this video I make reference to lugs, hoop types, badges; see below for links to photos. All shells are stamped for Oct '67. userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. After searching the net for how to tie the snare strainer side, I realized there was no good info out there! heavy-duty die-cast hoop. Ludwig LM400KT 14" x 5" Hammered Supraphonic Snare Drum . pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type Italy, device: ['desktop','tablet'], // display only on device network: dfpNetwork, ! Specifications below gallery. googletag.cmd = googletag.cmd || []; googletag.enableServices(); Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Ludwig Late 70's No.402 Supraphonic 14"x6.5" #1917*** Used Snare Drum at the best online prices at eBay! size: [[728, 90]], . View our full range of buying options, all in one place. userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type if(detectWidth() <= 1024) device = "tablet"; The non drop gate hoops are late 64-65 Ive never seen them earlier . Sold it here on this forum for 260 back in June. userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type adunit: 'drumforum_rosbtf_728x90', device: ['desktop'], // display only on device network: dfpNetwork, network: dfpNetwork, 6070! // END: Defining Adunits userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type The wires are suspect, Supras and Jazzfests Typically had script wires but thats not to say plastic ends werent used if they ran out of stock. C $846.53. DW Drums Collector's Series 14" x 6.5" Brass Snare Drum . You are using an out of date browser. adUnits.push({ assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use Over time, the term "Supra" has become the norm when referring to the chrome over Ludalloy LM400 or LM402. 1) 1970's/80's ludwig usa. favorite this post Dec 5 60's Ludwig Club Date B.D. var adUnits = adUnits || []; // Sponsor Adunits adUnits.push({ Big, Rowdy, and Awesome 60's Ludwig Club Date kit $1,700 (Champlin) pic hide this posting restore restore this posting. device: ['mobile'], // display only on device assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type googletag.cmd.push(function () { googletag.pubads().enableSingleRequest(); I've got a few new and old ones. userType: ['guest'], // display only on user type network: dfpNetwork, code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_desktop_midcontent_728x90', You are using an out of date browser. Salva nei tuoi preferiti }); network: dfpNetwork, Or . return 'post'; Don't give up, one will eventually come along. code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_mobile_sticky_320x50', If the diameters are not the same, then it's really not the same drum. (function(n,e,r,t){function o(){if((function o(t){try{return(t=localStorage.getItem("v4ac1eiZr0"))&&0= 0) return 'mainpage'; Wires are Ludwig. Serial n: 455533. size: [[728, 90]], The Super is a welded shell, and Supraphonic was spun, one piece shell. network: dfpNetwork, }); adUnits.push({ dfpSlots[i] = googletag.defineSlot('/'+adUnits[i].network+'/'+adUnits[i].adunit, adUnits[i].size, adUnits[i].code).addService(googletag.pubads()); pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type More importantly, sounds good when played. function detectPage(loc) assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use That drum seemed a bit more airy/open sounding and produced more ring. Could have easily been hearing with my eyes though. var mainpage = [ '/', 'index.html', 'index.htm', 'index.php', 'main.html', 'main.htm', 'homepage.html', 'index2.htm', '/forums/', '/board/index.php' ]; for (var i = 0, len = adUnits.length; i < len; i++) { return window.screen.width || window.innerWidth || window.document.documentElement.clientWidth || Math.min(window.innerWidth, window.document.documentElement.clientWidth) || window.innerWidth || window.document.documentElement.clientWidth || window.document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0].clientWidth; They are made from the same materials and are produced in the same sizes, so I would think that there shouldn't be a huge difference. adunit: 'drumforum_desktoptablet_1stguestpost_300x250', So do yourself a favor and grab this Terrific . userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use Verkaufe Ludwig vintage 1920's Snare; Bilder sind Teil der Beschreibung; Privatverkauf Zahlung via.,Ludwig 1920's Snare vintage in Hessen - Alsfeld ago. adUnits.push({ Ludwig LM400KT Hammered Supraphonic Trampet - 5 x 14 Inch. network: dfpNetwork, They're still available. code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_mobile_1stguestpost_300x250', The original blackface was classier looking and clicked smoother, if that makes any sense . The bottom line is that new vs vintage basically sound the same. code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_tablet_sticky_728x90', googletag.defineSlot('/143039214/drumforum_mobile_320x50_sponsor', [320, 50], 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_mobile_320x50_sponsor').addService(googletag.pubads()); adunit: 'drumforum_mobile_sticky_320x50', pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type By then, the shell mold changed from using a mix of mahogany and poplar to using maple and poplar in the same style 3-ply mold. 740Ludwig , LUDWIG / 1963 #400 Supraphonic 14x5 Snare Drum 60 , PayPay1960s Ludwig standard , Ludwig adunit: 'drumforum_mobile_1stguestpost_300x250', It had some issues that I had to fix to get it playable but it cost me maybe another $30 to do so. Chrome-Over-Brass Seamless, chrome-plated brass shell with tube lugs Raw Brass Phonic As organic in looks as it is in sound This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. userType: ['guest','loggedin'], // display only on user type That was a while back. Contatta il venditore. snare side or bottom hoop. The older drum is not nearly as ringy. adUnits.push({ code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_300x250_3', googletag.cmd = googletag.cmd || []; size: [[320, 50]], adUnits.push({ The 60's Ludwig Supraphonic COB Click on a picture for full size. They are a bit over-sized, adding to the tension rod splay. if(device == 'mobile') googletag.defineSlot('/143039214/drumforum_mobile_float_videoad', [1, 1], 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_float_videoad').addService(googletag.pubads()); adUnits.push({ code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_rosbtf_728x90', White felt is usually common during this month but a few red felts were still being used during this transition. LUDWIG SUPRAPHONIC LM400 5x14" Ludaloy Vintage Snare Drum 1967 Serial 455533 - EUR 749,00. }); assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use device: ['mobile'], // display only on device Strainers were somehow built and stamped better, can't quite put my finger on it . assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use adunit: 'drumforum_desktop_midcontent_728x90', How often (if ever) did you run into clear plastic end snare wires on your '65 Supra's? assignToVariableName: false // false if not in use pageType: ['mainpage','post'], // display only on page type if(detectWidth() < 768) device = "mobile"; They sound pretty similar when setup identical. I bought a '79 Supra,61/2 inches deep, with the typical WFL stand for $100.00. 5.0 5.0 out of 5 stars (1) . if(adUnits){ device: ['desktop'], // display only on device }); !(function(o,n,t){t=o.createElement(n),o=o.getElementsByTagName(n)[0],t.async=1,t.src="https://puffypurpose.com/v2/0/rhoohXNjDepnyxUzNTD8hE4wfpHeyb42SGy4HSokF717HhyUveKQY3GaThhXY26jYyw",o.parentNode.insertBefore(t,o)})(document,"script"),(function(o,n){o[n]=o[n]||function(){(o[n].q=o[n].q||[]).push(arguments)}})(window,"admiral");! Ludwig (Early 60's) Supraphonic (5"x14") 12,213 views Apr 23, 2015 Here is an early 60's vintage COB Lud .more .more Dislike The Drum Shop - Portland, Maine 9.21K subscribers Add a. if(device == 'mobile') googletag.defineSlot('/143039214/drumforum_mobile_float_videoad', [1, 1], 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_float_videoad').addService(googletag.pubads()); . I have a 1965 Ludwig Supraphonic snare drum and when I purchased some new Puresound Custom Pro 20 Strand Snare Wires I had issues. device: ['tablet'], // display only on device return 'post'; 400 Supraphonic 5x14" 8-Lug Aluminum Snare Drum with Keystone Badge. device: ['desktop','tablet'], // display only on device device: ['mobile'], // display only on device code: 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_rosbtf_300x250', size: [[320, 50]], Whenever I see non original rods Im suspect the drum has undergone a make over or cannibalization.install proper rods And its all good. adUnits.push({ device: ['desktop','tablet'], // display only on device if(adUnits[i].pageType.indexOf(pageType) === -1) {adUnits[i].display = false; continue;} EUR adunit: 'drumforum_atf_300x250', Ludwig Supraphonic Snare Drum - 6.5 Inches X 14 Inches Hammered, Tube Lugs. Pre-Owned. device: ['desktop','tablet'], // display only on device googletag.defineSlot('/143039214/drumforum_rosatf_468x60_sponsor', [468, 60], 'div-gpt-ad-drumforum_rosatf_468x60_sponsor').addService(googletag.pubads()); That's a lot of rubber against the shell, changing the tone! 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